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    Hey! This post is not specifically related to the lemmy.world instance. From now on, posts such as these will be removed, in order for the community to stay on topic. However, as this is a highly upvoted post, I’ll just lock it for now.

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      The blackout helped me to leave.

      It’s difficult to rewire a dopamine pathway you’ve been traveling for 14 years.

      Knowing that other people care enough to abstain for two days is useful in that process.

      I never expected Reddit to change their policy. I have been surprised at how petulant, dishonest and unprofessional they’ve been. I would have expected a bland corporate response.

      Anyway, onward and upward.

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      I wouldn’t say it was a flop. A massive number of subs and users are participating at the moment (some forced due to the blackouts). But I do agree that reddit executives definitely don’t give a shit, and will eventually just start booting mods to bring the subs back if they don’t fall in line.

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      Not surprised, still disappointed. Will discuss with other mods the idea of nuking our community as a “fuck you” to Reddit.

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      7750/8300 subreddits are blacked out. Plus the server issues caused by the blackout yesterday. I’d be interested to see if an indefinite strike could be powerful enough to reverse this plan

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      What absolutely bends my mind is there’s still confused people wandering into the blackout threads with absolutely no clue what’s going on. How is this info not reaching these people?

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          The number on the page is a bit misleading. If you comb through the website’s code on GitHub, you’ll see that the 8,838 is actually the number of subreddits that agreed to participate in the blackout.

          Calling it a flop isn’t accurate either, though.

          Sure, most subreddits don’t care, but the largest and most active subreddits are overwhelmingly in support of the blackout, but they are also much more affected by Reddit’s changes than smaller subreddits.

          EDIT: Some words for clarity.

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          Reddit has more than 100k active subreddits lol. Also, this number doesn’t mean much because community sizes vary a LOT

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    It’s not that you’re charging for API access; it’s that you’re charging US pharmaceutical industry pricing levels ($12,000 for something that should realistically be $200) and then only giving devs such a short time to implement changes. This was designed to kill 3PApps outright and everyone can see it. What an ass.

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      That part. No one is saying don’t charge but literally no one can afford to fork over that kind of money. Christian crunched the number to run Apollo for a year and it came out to approximately $20M. Twenty million freaking dollars. How is this reasonable?

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        Main reason why I’m gonna try and stick it out with Lemmy.

        Hard to corporate greed a decentralised system :D

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    I find it funny that a 3rd party app can be “profitable” but reddit cant be profitable without alienating a sizeable chunk of their userbase.

    Reddit has increasingly become a cesspit of racism and bigotry anyways, and I find Im going there less and less.

    I need to get used to how lemmy works and find my 3d printing people here.

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      That fuck talks about the data as if he was responsible in creating any of it. It’s the users and users should seriously leave reddit and delete their data en masse.

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        Exactly what I did. I’ll find other sources as they pop up. Too much time wasted filtering the bickering away from the few reliables

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    WE should blackout for longer, i own a very small subreddit, but 2 days is not enough!! im not backing down tomorrow, i ask over subs do the same. lets stick it to reddit

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      I’ve decided I’m done. A complete and utter about face doesn’t feel like it would be enough at this point. At some point a relationship/reputation becomes damaged beyond repair.

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      Aye, welcome! I’m still figuring things out myself. Mostly hoping the iOS client Mlem can find its footing because the whole Lemmy experience feels incomplete at the moment, but this all still feels like I’m on the ground floor of something potentially great.

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    This kind of protest is meaningless, going back online after 48 hours? It’s just a way for communities to feel good about themselves. The best way to protest is to delete the account / subreddit going offline indefinitely (although I doubt the effectiveness of this)

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      The blackout is a way to engage in a way that makes things inconvenient for people not informed about the issue so that awareness is generated. Like picketting the mayor’s office or blocking a public intersection.

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      From how I understood it (I could be wrong), the initial blackout was planned for june 30th when the API changes come into effect, and the current (previous?) protest was due to Spez’s AskReddit responses. Basically, this was the warning, the 30th is the big one.

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      It started out great at the times of Aaron Swartz, but just as with people, cancer sometimes hits. Anyway, it influenced projects like lemmy for which I’m thankful.

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        Yes I’m aware of the history. The only way to kill cancer is excise it. Lemmy realistically can’t take a full migration from Reddit but that needs to change. I too am super grateful. Part of me wonders if this platform could end the same way but given it’s decentralised nature, I highly doubt it. Reddit was open source once. I really want this to succeed. Seize the means of communication.

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          Open source and decentralized are two different things, as long as it’s just a bunch of independent server instances which are small enough each to handle the traffic load you can’t really buy that out.

          The question is if it’ll take off, more or less.

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          One thing that worries me is Lemmy’s dedication to non-advertisement funding. Lemmy will never be able to handle a ton of people without money for server space and bandwidth. I hate ads as much as anyone, but there are ways to do it that aren’t intrusive or toxic or damage your integrity.

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            There are ways to do advertising that works and is not annoying (or at least less annoying). Context advertising are ads that are directly related to the subject matter of interest. For example, ads from companies that are in the business of meeting the needs of the boatbuilding community would be welcome or at least tolerated in a boatbuilding community. Those same ads shown to a programming community would be less welcome, even if there happens to be significant shared membership.

            For example, the paper magazine “Small Craft Advisor” recently transitioned to online only via Substack. It didn’t take long for subscribers to actually complain about the loss of advertising and SCA had to respond with self-promotion articles from former advertisers.

            Context advertising requires no user profiling, no user tracking, and no data collection. “Oh, you sell epoxy (or sails or plans)? Well here is a community (as distinct from a user profile) that is likely looking for what you sell and probably already discussing products in your line of business.”

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            As more and more people host their own federated instances it won’t be as big of a problem as it was for web 2.0 legacy sites like reddit. The Fediverse really is the future.

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            The privacy movement can’t sell out to private entities or all bets are off again, I think no advertisements is wholly nessasary. I think taking out Reddit is much more achievable than many people think. Yes it will take some money and resources.

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                The money is coming from the community, which is why progress is slow. People don’t have much money. It doesn’t mean we should sell the soul of the project for a quick buck. Rome wasn’t built in a day.

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                  Rome wasn’t built for free either, we need some sort of financial backup. Even if it isn’t advertising something needs to be in place.

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    The alt-right is having a great time right now on Reddit. Tons of their posts from r/conservative on the front page.

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      Yes I went there for a peek and it’s so angry. Compared to the positive vibe here, reddit felt oppressive. I’m not going back. Let it simmer and boil. I love this place. It’s so refreshing at lemmy. Such a positive vibe. Like the internet was before it all became centralised. Lemmy is the real Web 3.

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      r/Canada was taken over by alt-right a long time ago. r/OnGuardForThee had to be made in response to that. I feel like Reddit in general is going that direction. The sheer volume of bot activity on most major subreddits is insane.

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        Right? Nothing like a festering pile of bigotry & ignorance to get the advertisers signing up.

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          You joke but it’s not exactly wrong.

          People like that love to buy dumb shit. After a time Reddit will be nothing but my pillow, t shirt companies, colonial penn life insurance, and reverse mortgage ads.

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            True, but they’re not exactly swimming in disposable income, usually. Trump’s base is mostly non-college-educated whites. Not exactly a rich vein to mine.