• blazera@kbin.social
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        No, it calls out lobbyists, and israeli occupation of palestine. No mention of a global jihad

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          I haven’t read whatever letter you guys are talking about and frankly I don’t give a fuck what it says.

          Find someone better to quote than fucking Osama bin Laden. Jesus Christ.

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            i read all of it. not once did he call for anyone to be any religion. he noted how israel has oppressed palestinians, noted similarities between how britain was pro-wealthy against the colonists and our situation now where corporations buy the laws they want, courts side with them, and presidents are just “train conductors” who must drive on the tracks laid down by lobbyists. he mentions unending war and its costs, suggests we have a revolution like that which started out country, says 9/ll was because we sent people out to kill in afghanistan and it was still going on. he notes that tho politicians claimed it was to help afghanistan and for our own security back home, it’s really about oil and its the further bloat bloated fat cats.

            a “terrorist” is someone who uses force to try to get their way. their way s and views could be wrong or right or a mix. but there’s nothin whatsoever about a turning anyone muslim.

            tl;dr he says our govt is an oligarchy, we should rebel, and he bombed us to get us to go away, and also to stop supporting israel in oppressing palestine.

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        right, specifically united states christians supporting the occupation and killing of palestinians

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          For those out of the loop/who have forgotten: A lot of Christians got really into “Israel” around the turn of the century because of the weird end times native they liked. In the “rapture” idea (like the “Left Behind” books), Israel has to exist as a state (maybe with all the territory Palestine was made up of) before the rapture could happen. So they got really into Israel as a foreign policy objective, and this included the Bush Jr administration.

          To be clear, though: Israel has to exist and there can’t be any Jews in it before the second coming of Jesus can happen. But the Palestinians have to die first.

          The Israeli government understood this but figured they may as well take advantage of it while it was popular.

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      The entire second half of the letter is about how he’s demanding that the entire world convert to Islam for him to stop blowing women and children up.