So you’re agreeing this is a Bill of Attainder limited to a single group of American citizens?

Thanks.

Where should Israel go back to then?

Israel doesn’t have to go anywhere. No more than South Africa went somewhere after Apartheid ended in that state. Or Cuba vanished after the Batista government collapsed. Or Germany vanished after '45.

But the war criminals leading the current genocidal policy towards the people in their care. They need the same treatment as Milosoviec, Omar al-Bashir, and Saddam Hussein.

Drag Netanyahu to the Hague and prosecute him for crimes against humanity. Dismiss the current illegal and unconstitutional Kinesset and hold new free and fair elections in Israel. Provide reparations for the displaced Gaza and West Bank citizens, and launch a Truth and Reconciliation Committee to recover damages for the crimes committed against them.

That is the only moral path forward for Israel.

they could’ve easily just targeted specific individuals

They did target a specific individual - the Iranian ambassador in Lebanon. Everyone else was collateral damage.

Bombing a police station because there’s a chance one of the cops might try to arrest me.

Bombing the court house so there’s no place for my trial.

Bombing the mayor’s Special Committee On Investigating City Bombings to cover my trail.

Bombing the local field office of the newspaper that’s writing a report on all these bombings.

More people are saying I’m the bad guy, but this is just adding the number of people I have to add to my list of future bomb targets.

Once again, it needs to be noted that this entire operation was designed to assassinate one guy. The part of the pager shipment was an order made by the Iranian consulate in Lebanon.

Since the Israelis didn’t know which pager was going to the ambassador, they just rigged them all to explode. Then everyone who got caught in the crossfire was labeled “Hezbollah” after the fact.

even though they’re (trying to) occupy the exact same plot of land

Explaining to my Cherokee friends that, really, you’re no better than the European settlers who displaced you because you both wanted to live in Florida. Suddenly, they’re not my friends anymore. Can’t believe they were anti-white racists the whole time.

Wait till they start dropping the big bombs. Then it’ll be even less like terrorism and you’ll be called antisemitic for suggesting otherwise.

who was in a car with a Hezbollah member

“How do you know he was a member?”

“He must have been a member because he was using a pager”

Perfect impenetrable circle of logic.

Then there would be news articles about mass civilian casualties

You’re literally posting under one of them.

I think it’s Musk’s backers, the Russians

Given how heavily sanctioned the Russian domestic industries have been, it would be big news to discover they were doing direct business with any of Musk’s heavily-predicated-on-federal-contracts firms.

I would love to see some evidence to this effect, but it sounds like fantastic conjecture rather than reality.

That’s just how the Trumpies do business. “Give me what I want or I’m leaving” is how Trump claimed he renegotiated NAFTA and reworked the US / China trade relationship and was allegedly going to forge an Amazing Massive Incredibly Lucrative New Deal with the then-Brexit-ing UK.

Far more often than not, the renegotiation just involves bribing Trump and his immediate crony base of support in order to leave existing policies alone. That is, incidentally, how Trump left the back door to Mexico open for Chinese EV imports, despite claiming it was the bestest renegotiation of a trade deal in the history of ever.

If Vance is ever in a position of authority, there’s little doubt he’ll be at some NATO summit demanding everyone in Germany buy a copy of Hillbilly Elegy in order to get him to STFU about a pull out.

Its a race to the bottom as the police and surveillance states of the entire NATO block fill to bursting.

Vance is bitching because an American company got on the wrong side of the European security state today. Tomorrow, he’ll be clamoring to shut down the BBC or to censor some German metal band for being critical of his Dear Leader.

Distributing bombs to terrorists

What if you distribute bombs to Lebanese civilians, detonate them, and then label the corpses “Terrorist” after the fact?

10 year old girl clearly was in a right wing terrorist group.

This is what Israelis actually believe

In an episode of Two Nice Jewish Boys, which aired three weeks ago, host Weinstein said: “If you gave me a button to just erase Gaza, every single living being in Gaza would no longer be living tomorrow. I would press it in a second.”

He claimed that “most Israelis” would do the same.

Meningher added that they would also want to wipe out Palestinians in “the territories.”

“Because that’s the reality we live in, it’s us or them, and it has to be them,” Weinstein said.

He added that Israelis want “full-scale war.”

Oh man, the bill to go to war with China would have been ratified in milliseconds.

Frustrating to do another long-form argument of “actually, when you distribute a bunch of explosives and set them off in crowded areas, you’re not fighting terrorism but doing terrorism”

For some reason people struggle to believe flinging hand grenades into a crowd is bad public policy when a US ally does it.

I guess better late than never. Although, I do begin to wonder how much of this is in response to Israeli’s tax base getting eviscerated by the war

that is not where the USA is going if they continue down the MAGA rabbit hole

“Strict Constructionism” is a central tenant of the conservative movement. A big chunk of their revanchist ideology is embodied in the slogan (Make America Great Again), implying we left the rabbit hole and we need to go back.

All I want are laws that are not based on religious beliefs.

That’s a shit basis for a legal system, as it does nothing to protect individual civil liberties or form an egalitarian basis of enforced legal standards. I can shave the serial numbers off all my religious precepts and implement a secularized fascist government without anyone noticing the difference.

Which can objectively be avoided or mitigated.

How do you mitigate majority rule in a democracy?

this is exactly what I am talking should not happen and something you just claimed “strictly speaking” does not happen.

Constitutional law is a secularized standard of customs and taboos. The legalism stands in for the religiousity, but yields the same practical results.

Now you are just pearl clutching for effect

We’ve seen this anti-religious hysteria in action within the US/UK before. It just got pointed at minority religious groups. Hell, Hitchens himself had no problem striking a common cause with UK sectarian Anglicans and Catholics when it came time to wage a Holy Crusade on the majority Muslim states of Iraq, Iran, and Syria.

Secularizing your bigotry makes you no less of a shit.

But explicit prohibition on continued operation if they don’t. ByteDance is not affected outside of the US. Only US employees are being threatened.

It would be akin to passing a law that states Finite Banjo’s friend Jose

Except, again, the business being penalized is the American subsidiary.

The fact that you think you can remove all context

The context is that the commercial assets and employees being threatened by the US government are all within US territory.