• KillaBeez@lemmy.world
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    Maybe all of those in favor of the protests kept their word and only those who are against it remain?

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      I don’t miss Reddit. I checked some comment sections and holy hell is it toxic compared to here. I think part of that is because of what you’ve mentioned in your comment.

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        I used to work for this major company, biggest in my country by far.

        Whether it was going well or poorly, they tended to offer severance packages to “cut back” on their staff, to appease the grotesquely overpaid consultants that analysed their finances.

        What tended to happen, was that the most qualified people, who had no issues finding another job (often better paying), took those packages (I took home a one year salary after having worked there almost three, then had two months vacation and started a better paying job), which left those who didn’t really have other options, those who did the bare minimum and had a lot of useless meetings.

        I guess that’s what reddit is heading for. They are alienating those who contribute the most, the content creators, the mods and the ones who like to engage others. They will be left with their bots, lurkers, racists, reposters and porn-spammers.

        Good riddance.

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          Completely agree. I’m kinda hoping the substance of reddit just moves to lemmy and none of us will have to deal with so many tools and trolls.

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          I also think the Advertising subs don’t care much. You know the ones that are content rich from the posters but actually modded by the organisation the sub is for.

          For example /r/razer mods being linked to taking bribes and specific subs dedicated to a brand.

          They have nice communities but they’ll stay.

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          Good for you! I recently changed jobs to a more stable position after asking for years to be put on full time staff at my old one. Once they filled a position with an outside hire instead of bringing me on full time, I knew it was the end of the road. Now I get paid almost twice as much plus amazing benefits to do about half the work.

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        holy hell is it toxic compared to here

        I cannot agree more! I went to reddit (wirhour an acc) and just… wow. Did it got worse or was I always blind to how awful that place was?

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          I think you are seeing some withdrawal symptoms honestly. People are addicted to scrolling for their next dopamine hit. When that’s taken away they get cranky. Add the anonymous nature of being online and things get toxic real fast.

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          I was IP banned from Reddit so I only got to use it without an account for the last few months. It’s very toxic. The front page (not logged in) is so fucked.

          I don’t miss Reddit.

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              Oddly enough, the same thing happened to my partner. She logged out one day, and then she suddenly could never log in ageing on that acct. Then, she could not log in to a new acct more than twice before it got removed. She tried 4 it 5. Her only comment was saying that she loved the colour of something.

              We are stayng away from reddit now lol

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        I’ll be real. I miss it for very specific subs. It’s definitely more toxic but small game subs and stuff like that I miss

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        Ever tried having a discussion in any of the default subs? If your opinion differentiates from the hivemind you will be downvoted as spam, without any responses. It completely defeats the purpose of a “discussion”

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          I don’t see his it won’t happen here. The vote structure is very similar.

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            Yeah that is true, but it wasn’t as bad on reddit back in the day (as far as I remember), it seems to have happened after reddit went super-mainstream a few years ago. So I am hoping lemmy will be like that until it “potentially” becomes super popular lol

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              What if Lemmy becomes so successful and then it gets acquired by Reddit? Lol.

              Think of the big corps like Google, Facebook, etc. buying the competitors for their products.

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        It’s getting really bad. I’m noticing there being a lot of comments in subs where there barely were any and any mention of the blackout and what might happen after the 30th is met by tons of downvotes and removal. Tinfoil hat but it feels like there are bots making these bad faith comments.

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      I think this might actually be the case. Let’s see how things work out. Lemmy surprised me as a proper alternative it’s just not as content rich as reddit at the moment. Something about chickens and eggs.

      Let’s just expand and improve it further than the original lemmies did. Don’t be afraid to post content, heck scrape content and make this the better option. People will follow content.

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        I’d like to add that there’s already been a significant increase in the amount of content and comments in just the last few days. I joined a whole 5 days ago (so many ages ago, I know) and back then it was somewhere between 1 and 2k users on this instance. It was way emptier - you could read all of the posts in most of the “big” communities in an hour or so. And the new feed was pretty stale.

        Lemmy’s not the firehose of content that is Reddit yet, but it’s making real progress.

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        it’s just not as content rich as reddit at the moment

        This can change fast.

        You should’ve seen it two weeks ago.

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      There’s something to that. Hearing stories of subreddits reopen and ask the userbase what they want to do, well, who exactly are they asking? I’m not there, and I’ve seen plenty of posts from others who are also not there. Are they taking silence as votes against? I doubt it.

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        I’m going to go back to reddit for a bit, but only to encourage mod teams to setup shop here.

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      I just switched over to lemmy from reddit, and it is much nicer here isn’t riddled with ads and toxicity. I just hope that more users do join over here, since there were a few subreddits/people I followed and would still like to see there updates/posts

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      Literally. The people in favor of the protests are… Protesting! Everybody else doesn’t care.

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      and you know what? I am happier to be around people that keep their word.

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      tbats one of the reasons we are all (still) here. these are the people we want to be with.

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      Hopefully the content submitters and mods also already migrate.

      That will hurt reddit more than just the lurkers, I think.

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    This comment is incorrect as well.

    The people that cared left and what’s left behind is people that wouldn’t leave anyway and the strike only bothers them.

    This person is living in a bubble and can’t see further than their nose.

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    I think people are seeing Reddit as their only solution right now due to the lack of awareness of this place. It’s been a bit sad to see all the news articles written about the event but very few plugs for alternate options to visit.

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        Lazy people fearing change is more like it. I’m waiting to see if capitulation occurs. If things don’t get fixed by month end I’ll zero my main account and walk away.

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      I’ve been telling people, the only way this works is if communities migrate somewhere else. Every single blacked out subreddit needs to post their new location on a site other than Reddit. Otherwise people will just stay on Reddit and wait or visit/make new subreddits.

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      It’s nice how many threads I actually open to read the comments on here, on Reddit I regularly scrolled past 20 or more posts before finding something interesting again, on lemmy it’s every 2nd thread or more

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        I understand that the fediverse isn’t the most intuitive thing to understand, and that many people won’t immediately understand it, but I’ve seen so many comments saying that it’s too confusing (even in response to direct links to instances with the simplest explanations). There has to be an astroturfing campaign of some kind going on

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    The fediverse is the way. I’m not smart enough to say if it’s the best option, but it’s a hell of a lot better than a profit driven monolith run by out of touch investors. Reddit won’t implode but it won’t be the same as it was even a week ago. This decentralized structure is what the internet wants to be.

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      One way I’m looking at this opportunity is like email, anyone can set up an email server thanks to how it got established. So if this pans out and eventually we get funded hosts in the vein of Gmail and Hotmail, who spend money writing fancy UIs and on marketing, we still have a fundamental base where we can shuffle away from the big players and go set up our own servers.

      I do hope to see some funded options come into this space, they can control/own their interface into the data, but they can’t control/own the data.

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        as long as we are vigilant for the microsoft method of embrace, extend, extingush/enshittify we will be good.

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            Server costs, lawyers, management will add up eventually. Ads or other financial incentives will take part in this at some point. The biggest instance, which will have the most funding, could monopolize by defederating others. Though with future account portability it could be made impossible. As in if reddit was the instance, most communities and users would seamlessly move over to others. But right now the risk is real.

            Beehaw just defederated lemmy.world and users have to either move with the bigger fediverse of lemmy.world or stay confined to their isolated instance.

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        I’m brand new to the fediverse concept so funded hosting hadn’t occurred to me. Yeah, let the big boys throw some money at it and we reap the benefits!

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      The fediverse has one thing going for it that any other alternative lacks: a credible approach to dealing with the network effect. In isolation, it is very difficult to start an independent social media website. This becomes much, much easier when you have neighboring sites that you can interact with. Federation serves as a catalyst. I’ve been longing for the proliferation of open source social media for over 15 years. Nothing has changed the state of affairs more thoroughly than the introduction of federation.

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      It’s either fediverse or nostr. But nostr is more twitter-like than reddit-like and is filled with cryptobros so no thanks no

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    This person can suck it. I was a big time Reddit fan (mostly a lurker) but I decided to continue my boycott of Reddit as long as u/spez is in play and even when he leaves they would need to do a lot to get me to go back. The Fediverse still has some work to do with QoL features but overall it is a less toxic world than Reddit and refreshing to take part in. When mlem and other phone apps really get going I think it will really attract a lot more users as a lot of folks are phone only users and we’ll see the Fediverse really take hold.

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    we have had the first wave - and its gone well. second wave is incomming on or about the 30th - probably smaller, but no less committed (long term). after that its a war of attrition.

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      Yep, I feel like a lot of people are forgetting about the wave coming at the end of the month. We’ll see plenty more people then.

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      Yeah, I’m sure it’ll die down more once the third party apps shut down. I wonder how many people are in it for the social aspect of Reddit anymore anyway, or if it isn’t just a constant scroll and upvote thing.

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        You know I see that a lot of people love old reddit. I was a fan of it 10 years ago. When it switched to the modern layout, I think I was kind indifferent at first. But trying to go back to it after all these years, it seems like a downgrade in many ways. I guess I’m not seeing what they’re seeing lol.

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    I used Reddit because I was bored and watching tv. I barely interacted. I am interacting on Lemmy. There was a lot of angry, toxic people on Reddit. So I am glad they are staying there

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      You just made me realize I’ve been sitting here for two hours in a now-dark room and I haven’t turned the TV on yet. Fediverse truly is like the old reddit.

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      Man, this is true. So far my experience has been less stressful and more wholesome on the fediverse. It feels more like Reddit from 8 years ago than modern, angry Reddit.

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          and you can potentially replicate that honeymoon period on a wide variety of instances and local communities, each with their own vibe.

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            And here your one voice can have an impact on a mag or community. Your contributions can grow a community, and change how it feels.

            On Reddit, even a small community is 10,000+ members, your voice is drowned out by thousands of others, your contribution is barely registered.

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        Part of it is the smaller base, but hopefully with more folks coming in, the different instances can help maintain that vibe

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          ya i just hope we all can keep the energy. just like anything social media is a habit so if a majority of us refugees can just make this shit the new habit, soon this place will feel very similar

          i dont need 1000s of reposts. i need some good quality shit and good comments and ill stick around i think

          i still have RiF on my phone. but when thats dead, ill only go to reddit for its legacy shit. the help comments and shit. i wish someone could scrape all the info off reddit and put it somewhere else. i can barely tie my shoes so i dont understand how that would work but i just dont wanna loose old reddit shit

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      My fediverse experience got much calmer after joining an instance that blocks some problematic instances as well. I recommend beehaw.org to everyone.

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    I have noticed this so much today. I pretty much lived in r/hockey for the past 5 years. They had a vote and decided to black out for the 48 hour protest. Once it was clear that the vote was in favor of blacking out (and that the championship deciding game could be played during the blackout), people started pleading to move the blackout to after the championship was decided, which completely defeats the purpose of the protest.

    Well, during the blackout, the championship was decided. Now that it’s open again, everyone is again flipping out about how pointless the protests were, and how we ruined their experience of watching the championship game.

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      Maybe I’m crazy, but I generally watch hockey because I like watching hockey. I feel like you might have a social media addiction if not being able to browse reddit ruins the experience. Crazy stuff.

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        Yeah, I don’t mind checking into match threads now and then, but I don’t get the people that constantly monitor them, especially in the larger threads where you can barely discuss anything.

        It reminds me of people that sit on their phones while watching a TV show/movie. Just defeats the point.

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    Personally, I like the Lemmy community better. It’s definitely possible to find great stuff on reddit (and in particular for news, I think reddit is superior to what I’ve been finding on Lemmy), but the overall ratio of content : crap is much, much higher here.

    Now that I’ve broken the seal, I honestly am not sure what people are going back to so eagerly on reddit. Maybe just the dopamine of lots and lots of stories and comments to interact with, or maybe they’re part of something I don’t interact with there.

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      There are a lot of subreddits for specific tv shows or games. Ngl that’s the biggest temptation for me. There are shows that I’m obsessed with that no one else in my life has the same love for, and Reddit is the only place I can talk to anyone about them. Sad to let that go.

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        Hobbies too, especially more obscure ones. I’m really missing the journal/planner subs.

        I knew I’d be tempted to go back, though, so I deleted my 13year old account. No regrets and I’m not signing up again. I just hope that my little communities find their way into the fediverse soon.

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    I knew a lot of people would follow spez and toe the company line, just like they did with Twitter. I don‘t mind, I‘d rather hang out here without all them anyway.

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    I don’t understand. Maybe it’s my adhd and lack of object permanence, but I have been so unbothered by the lack of Reddit.

    I bought a plant today. I’ve never bought a plant. I bought cats before buying a houseplant. I’m pretty stoked—and it’s mostly because I was scrolling through Reddit that I got up to do it.

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      Just in case it comes up, bitter apple spray works great if said cats decide to chew on your new plant.

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    “I’ll stand by you no matter what”

    “Wait, I didn’t realize that I’d be sacrificing as well”

    Standard motto today with people.

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    Eh, I used Reddit daily for 14 years, and quit cold turkey. The first few days were rough, but between the feddiverse and inoreader, I’m doing fine.

    Sure the communities I left behind were much larger, but honestly the responses I get here are of much higher quality.

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      And the communities are growing noticeably too. It’s not that rough of a move it thought it would be.

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    All of these subs should have been linking to a comparable Lemmy community instead of just saying they were protesting. The simple fact of the matter is that the lemmyverse is not mature enough of a platform to actually be a reddit replacement. It needs to get a lot of the kinks worked out and it needs a much better onboarding. Hopefully it can take these new users and steadily grow and while they grow they can fix these issues.