As a new reddit exile, I may be misunderstanding this.
In theory something like a !gaming community could crop up on multiple large instances, especially during the mass exodus while instances are getting hammered with spikes in volume.
If that’s the case, we’ll have fragmented communities across instances. Is there any way besides subscribing to each of them to combine them into a sort of multi-reddit type aggregation? Or is this considered a temporary (albeit important to adoption) problem during the crazy stages?
Yeah I this is my biggest problem, and there’s always like 30 people saying “it’s not a problem, it’s a feature!”
Either they are in denial or I’m just completely incompatible with federation.
Why would I want 100 fragmented communities for the exact same thing? If I wanted to consume content from all of them sure, I could follow all 100 but that is so tedious. Plus what if I wanted to interact with them? I’d have to ask the same question 100 times!
I think it’s just a problem that will work itself out over time with more users. There are redundant subreddits as well, but as the overall userbase grew only one or two subs maintained the subscriber growth to continue showing up on r/all. And in cases where redundant subs both grew together, they evolved to be very different atmospheres. For example, r/games vs r/gaming; one is focused on news and discussion while the other is mostly memes. Both great subs, but started out nearly identical until they found their identity.
I believe over time it’ll sort out and one community will be dominant. But the reason you want this is so whoever got c/canada won’t be dominant. If the mod of c/canada was a QAnon lizardpeople nut, you wouldn’t need to make c/RealCanada because there’s not a single real c/canada. You would make c/canada@lemmy.ml
But also, many communities were spread out even in reddit. Like r/traa and r/egg_irl.
You might be completely incompatible with federation. I mean this with zero ill intention, it just might not be the alternative YOU are looking for. Reddit and lemmy are separate projects with separate goals and means. Centralization is what led to the issues leading to people exodusing from Reddit, but now everyone is upset that it’s not centralized here. If you want one single set of users crammed into one single set of communities, this just isn’t it by design.
As somebody who likes sharing my opinion and bickering about them, I’ve run afoul of power mods on Reddit in the past and been blanket banned from like 8 subs at once for liking firehouse subs over subway or some such nonsense. Here, if I’m banned from !AITA@lemmy.world I can still fiddle around on !AITA@lemmy.ml. I can spin up my own instance and start !AITA@lemmy.mything if I want.
It’s important to remember that this is NOT REDDIT. This is a different project with different goals and different methods of achieving those goals. IIRC there are people trying to build a more 1 for 1 replacement for Reddit, and if that’s what you want - great! Find one and enjoy it, but don’t try to force lemmy to centralize and just become Reddit 2, because that’s not the goal or intention of the project.
The reason you want a 100 communities over one is what is happening over on Reddit. Make one big thing, and greed will take over. Make many smaller ones? Is significantly less likely to happen.
The communities are also significantly less likely to grow. It’s a double edged sword.
I think both sides have a point here, there are clear positives to federation and clear negatives. I hope a lot of the negatives can be overcome by streamlining the user interface and better apps.
Tbh this isn’t even unique to Lemmy. Even on reddit, creating a new subreddit is free. If you don’t like the moderation or the general vibe of a subreddit, create a new one and build the community that you like. with the ethos that you see fit. That’s how there’s r/gaming, r/truegaming, r/games, r/pcgaming, r/gamernews, etc.
Reddit also only allowed comments in 2008, and Digg v4 was released in 2010. Therefore much of the reddit “canon” was developed after the Digg migration (e.g. today you tomorrow me, cumbox, forthewolfx, swamps of Dagobah, discoball, jolly ranchers, double dick dude, taco show, broken arms). Digg didn’t have custom communities. Reddit did. And now Lemmy has custom communities in infinite instances. If there’s going to be a Quit Reddit Day (maybe July 1st?) like Quit Digg Day, we’re in the forefront of shaping Lemmy.