After years of reddit/twitter/facebook propping up fascism/bigotry with algorithms & bots I’m honestly surprised and relieved to be in an online space that clearly rejects their ideology.

They can have reddit/facebook/twitter. AFAIC the only way to reach some of these people is to leave them alone long enough to realize on their own.

Lemmy.world admins are doing an amazing job dealing with everything. Their recent decision to defederate from exploding heads (or whatever its called) really goes to show that they’re in it for the right reasons.

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    We aren’t quite out of the woods yet. /c/ConservativesOnly /c/Maga /c/conservative and /c/prolife are still around here on lemmyworld and spreading bullshit.

    Edit: some were removed after all

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      Every one of those but /c/conservative are deleted.

      Look the mod/admin tools are limited and we do or best to take care of these things asap but we also don’t want to go nuclear on something without checking it out. /c/conservativesonly and /c/maga had their mods removed a while ago and were up for grabs. that’s why we added the LW_NewModWanted to those communities and asked for new mods. Surprisingly nobody here was interested so now we deleted them completely. They can be recreated on other instances.

      Didn’t know about that /c/prolife one until now though. But it’s gone

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        First, thank you.

        Second, you guys are ON TOP OF IT!!! Excellent work, you guys are amazing!

        Third,

        Surprisingly nobody here was interested so now we deleted them completely

        HAHHAHAHAH so you saw my comment???

        “FYI nobody is interested go back to reddit”

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      True but have you looked at the vote scores in those communities?

      On reddit they were cesspools but on lemmy they’re laughing stocks. The only posts they can get above zero are antithetical ones pointing out the criminality and incompetence of trump/republicans.

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        If the internet existed in Germany in the 1930’s, I wouldn’t take much solace in the fact that the fascists are getting downvoted. They’re getting into power and every day they spread more and more dehuminization and hate.

        On reddit they became cesspools because the admins refused to do anything about their fascism, so I don’t have a lot of trust for the admins of lemmy.

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              I get the inclination to want admins to ban them… but not only is that unnecessary (at this point in time!) it’s also a far, far weaker rebuke than the entire community refusing to let them trend.

              We saw how on reddit, banning subs simply resulted in them making new ones.

              At least on lemmy there is visible evidence that no matter what they call their community it will be rejected by the lemmy community as a whole.

              At least here’s hoping!

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                No, fascism is from the side that pushes their Christian agenda onto people. Decides how they should live their life if they are born with the wrong plumbing or decides what books are allowed at school.

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      c/ConservativesOnly and c/Maga were removed due to lack of moderation and because the previous moderator(s) were banned.

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        Holy shit… either that was in the last 10 hours or my lemmy was lagging.

        Props to the admins/mods!

        NGL part of me wanted the banned mod (OptionHome I think) to stay and be our community laughing stock.

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      Genuine question: are you just trying to censor any viewpoint that you disagree with? Because it sure as shit seems like you guys are trying to make this into another left-wing circlejerk where anything even remotely right wing is immediately removed regardless of how level-headed or civil it’s presented.

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        are you just trying to censor any viewpoint that you disagree with?

        Nope. I just don’t like fascists/bigots.

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        Oh go back to your own circlejerks. You’ve got plenty. Truth Social, 4chan, Twitter…

        You do not belong here.

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          You do not belong here

          My crime? Having a different opinion. You sound awfully fascist to me.

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            Your different opinion is that those who think LGBT people should die should be allowed to spread that opinion

            You are wrong, deal

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        Most people don’t have an issue with old conservatism, as it still had the goal of making the country better.

        Modern conservatism is more focused on contrarianism and depriving various groups of their rights or quality of life. Given the tolerance paradox, people outside of this mindset don’t want to allow discussion in that area to spread.

        Due to this shift in conservatism, communities that, on their face, seem like communities with just a different political leaning have had to tolerate this bigotry.

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          There hasn’t been a shift in conservatism. There has, however, been a shift in the left’s labeling of it.

          Right: “don’t chop off the penis of children”

          Left’s response: “OMG you’re literally commuting genocide to trans people!!!”

          Yeah, no. Not buying it. And banning anything you disagree with in the guise of “anti-fascism” is just the Orwellian icing on the cake.

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            Yeah tbh trans discussion isn’t even my space so I’m not even going to get involved. I just don’t want to have an opinion of others lives or belief systems in this case.

            Personally, my only gripe really is that I feel that male bisexuality should be more accepted. Not directed at anyone in particular.

            That’s it really.

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              Cool. Glad you have an opinion. Isn’t it great that you’re allowed to express it civilly without a horde of intolerant losers trying to censor you for it?

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                Just by saying that the left “wants to chop of children’s penis” you are spreading misinformation.

                No, the take is this: if someone feels like they are born in the wrong body shouldn’t they be free to do whatever makes them feel better? Should they not be provided with all the mental and physical help to make a decision whatever that would be?

                Ps not everyone is American and those US takes which are “slightly to the right” for you are Hella-right to a lot of us.

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            Right: “don’t chop off the penis of children”

            What about hermaphrodites where ambiguous genitalia could be damaging to their long-term health?

            IIRC, removal of the inappropriate penis (external genitalia) is the preferred choice in today’s medial science for fixing 46 XX DSD. Which is a pretty simple case of internal-organs are female, the child identifies as a female, but for various mutation/birth defect reasons, she was born with a penis (Completely non-functioning mind you, as all the internal parts are female).

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        I have seen more people with different ideologies beliefs and opinions have actual discussions and civil debates here since I joined then I have anywhere in a long time. I feel safe to comment and share my opinions because even if someone were to disagree and share a different opinion, I know I am not going to get a barrage of mean and hateful replies and messages.

        Prior to 2015, I had friends from many walks of life. Sometimes we’d have some heated discussions, but no one was yelling, being racist, spewing hate etc.

        Since 2016, most of my conservative friends actively eliminated everybody who did not think like them. It was mind-boggling how many people I knew asked who I voted for and if it wasn’t for Trump they let me know I was no longer welcome to be their friend. I didn’t even vote for Hillary and yet it was extremely difficult to even convince them of that. They forgot that there were other people running in the race apparently.

        I think if you stick around long enough you will see many viewpoints and discussions here.

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        where anything even remotely right wing is immediately removed regardless of how level-headed or civil it’s presented.

        There is nothing civil about taking people’s rights away, dehumanizing people, and destroying our biosphere. Fascism is inherently uncivil regardless of presentation.

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      I checked those out out of morbid curiosity and saw them mostly being trolled by lefties/libs. Warmed my heart.

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        I’d like to believe that such communities could be allowed to exist as long as they weren’t allowed to become “safe spaces” for misinformation the way the ones on Reddit were (i.e. if everybody defederated with any ones that did). Allowing those sorts of people to post but denying them the ability to stop others from debunking their claims could be more effective than shoving them off into dark corners where they can radicalize themselves undisturbed.

        I’m not sure whether I do believe that, but I’d like to.