We appear to be imagining different scenarios. Imagine it is freshly amputated and is still alive, or that we amputate it and hook it up to an artificial circulatory system, or indeed my circulatory system but at a distance so nothing else is connected (curious if you think the pain chance changes in that situation).
I’m sorry, I could have been more explicit. It seemed obvious to me discussing a dead hand was silly but being the internet it’s worth clarifying these things.
Imagine it is freshly amputated and is still alive,
Why should I imagine it when that’s not reality?
or that we amputate it and hook it up to an artificial circulatory system, or indeed my circulatory system but at a distance so nothing else is connected (curious if you think the pain chance changes in that situation).
Where it would be no more “alive” than Henrietta Lacks’ eternal cell line. If you have to keep it from decomposing by artificial means, it’s not alive like a plant is alive. This should be obvious to you.
it’s not an analogy it’s a thought experiment. I am trying to understand the shape of your ideas.
So the ability to feel pain is harmed by cybernetics? division from a whole (still no idea what you mean specifically there in the absence of localised organs)? and if you’re going to die in about an hour?
Until you stop insisting that an amputated hand is equivalent to an entire plant, this is a ridiculous discussion.
Plants are alive. Amputated hands are not. Those are facts you can’t seem to accept.
We appear to be imagining different scenarios. Imagine it is freshly amputated and is still alive, or that we amputate it and hook it up to an artificial circulatory system, or indeed my circulatory system but at a distance so nothing else is connected (curious if you think the pain chance changes in that situation).
I’m sorry, I could have been more explicit. It seemed obvious to me discussing a dead hand was silly but being the internet it’s worth clarifying these things.
Why should I imagine it when that’s not reality?
Where it would be no more “alive” than Henrietta Lacks’ eternal cell line. If you have to keep it from decomposing by artificial means, it’s not alive like a plant is alive. This should be obvious to you.
Find a better analogy.
it’s not an analogy it’s a thought experiment. I am trying to understand the shape of your ideas.
So the ability to feel pain is harmed by cybernetics? division from a whole (still no idea what you mean specifically there in the absence of localised organs)? and if you’re going to die in about an hour?
None of what you are talking about has anything to do with what I’m talking about. You can mention severed hands as much as you like.
I’m bored of this. I thought you had interesting opinions, sorry for my mistake.