• Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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          2 months ago

          They were leaders of NATO, not speaking at a NATO event.

          You’re working overtime to normalize Nazism.

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            2 months ago

            bro i have spent the equivalent of 12 seconds on this thread. Donald trump was the US president, is the entire fucking country fascist now because of him?

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              I mean America is a fascist country though. After all, it still has legalised slavery and killed millions of innocent people in this century alone. It’s only natural for such a country to elect fine specimens just as Trump or Biden.

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              2 months ago

              The United States, as in the State itself? Yes, actually, however I’m sure you understand that literal fucking Nazis leading NATO is a sign of it being Nazi friendly, don’t you think?

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                (the answer was no btw, unless you have really strong proof that there is a government structure of loyalty and power grabbing currently in place, you’re dead in the water on that one)

                Also the united states is a collection of states, so technically it’s not a collective state, but a country, the individual states themselves are irrelevant, unless texas is directly sending israel money for the war or something.

                however I’m sure you understand that literal fucking Nazis leading NATO is a sign of it being Nazi friendly, don’t you think?

                i would be inclined to agree with you in the case that like, they were pushing nazi ideals, and like, hated jews. Or something.

                Also i’m not even sure this is accurate today? How many original nazis are even still alive?

                I’m also assuming that when you say “leaders of NATO” you mean “a member of NATO” NATO is literally just a military alliance, it’s not like it has a governmental structure, at best it has a democratic process, or something like that, but im guessing you probably don’t even know how NATO works beyond the fact that it had a nazi in it once and that is bad maybe.

                You have to give me more information than “there was a nazi in NATO once” before i can even begin to consider whether or not this is a good or a bad or completely ambivalent thing.

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                  2 months ago

                  Being Chairman of NATO’s Military Committee from being a Nazi chief of Army Operations is the same as “just a few Nazis in NATO?”

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                    2 months ago

                    statistically, yes, and realistically, probably even more charitable than that.

                    It looks like they also have a three year appointment, idk about re-appointments, but i assume not. Aside from the fact that US generals can’t be appointed. Which you would probably like.

                    assuming we’re talking about the same dude (Adolf Heusinger), it looks like he didn’t even really do anything? He lead invasions, but that seems to be it, he testified in the Nuremberg trials. He worked in the military prior to the nazis, and he continued to work for the military after the war as well, for west germany.

                    This either guy (Hans_Speidel) literally tried to assassinate hitler? Looks like he may have had some involvement in the spicy shit, but it seems like he also didn’t really agree with it either. Dude was also jailed by the gestapo.

                    Neither of these really seem like they would compromise the entire fucking structure of NATO to me.