Here’s the problem: Trump is out to maximize environmental damage and the US Green Party runs as spoilers. Let’s look at three scenarios:

Scenario 1:

Harris: 1001 votes

Trump: 1000 votes

Stein: 0 votes

Harris wins


Scenario 2:

Harris: 1000 votes

Trump: 1000 votes

Stein: 1 vote

Tied vote, which goes to the courts and Congress, putting Trump in power


Scenario 3:

Harris: 999 votes

Trump: 1000 votes

Stein: 2 votes

Trump wins outright


This spoiler effect makes it really imperative to actively vote for Harris if you want to see any kind of climate action going forward. Republicans know this, which is why they’re the ones funding the Green Party.

And that’s why the European Greens want Jill Stein to step down now — they get that what she’s doing is making it easier to elect a fascist bent on environmental destruction.

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    I agree that climate change is a global problem, but letting the one candidate who said “drill baby, drill,” got $75mil investments from Big Oil, has indicated he’d be a dictator, and has explicitly called climate change a hoax—we can just let him win, because surely he won’t put the boot upon the climate activists and suppress any effort to do anything meaningful about the climate?

    Climate activists are already being beaten and arrested pretty much all around the world.

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      So, not going to answer the questions I asked you and just pretend it’s going to be exactly the same under both candidates?

      Is that your strategy? Are you a troll?

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        What is exactly your question?

        My “strategy” aka the right thing to do is to not endorse or advocate for criminals. Simple as that

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          I’m pointing out the government is shit. Of course i must be a psyop agent from the “enemy”. Our government is the best in the world and never do anything wrong.

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            must be a psyop agent from the “enemy”.

            You might be.

            I’m pointing out the government is shit

            Nobody is claiming it doesn’t have problems. If you haven’t been paying attention, there are things that non-MAGA wants to change about it.

            Our government is the best in the world

            As we constantly complain about citizens United, electoral college, first past the post elections, car dependant infrastructure, and the list goes on.

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        What is exactly your question?

        My “strategy” aka the right thing to do is to not endorse or advocate for criminals. Simple as that