flight simulators and other war games (Early CODs not the modern warfare and such ) don’t promote negative values in society and sexism . Portraying women as mere sexual objects is not very healthy to teenagers . GTA 5 had all kinds of applying torture , sexual gratification , promoting banditry.
You’re sounding like a 90’s christian parent worried that video games are going to turn their kids violent.
Which reminded me, I should have mentioned this earlier, but you used the word “depraved” in the first post; I am not comfortable with you using that christofacist language.
lol. Well that’s maybe the cultural difference between a westerner and a person from South Asia. We two have different perspectives of depravity and right and wrong. btw I am not a Christian .
Well, you do sound like one. Condemning a piece of media for its “depravity” sounds like it came straight out of a Republican’s playbook. As for perspective, I mean, if it means “things with a sexual tone that I consider morally bad”, then it is a problem regardless of culture.
Edit: maybe I am being too exclusionary, all religious fundamentalism is bad, not just christian.
Jack Thompson was right. The videogames made by the west encourage people to become antisocial freaks. All the treat defenders in the thread can cope and seethe all they want, people are shaped by the media they consume.
You have been living in a bubble world where you think GTA 5/6 is the way to achieve social progress. Yeah , portraying women as sexual objects , promoting drug abuse , gang violence is what we need in the society. No regular healthy society will accept it. Western societies and liberal left accept it because they have nothing else to offer in their corrupt society and you people are being brainwashed by those idiotic concept thinking a women protagonist in GTA 6 game is feminism . But whom I am to judge your corrupt capitalistic system has made those games and you are the product of the same society.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsZdwwDV42M Torturing a guy with electric shocks /clippers is not fun for me and it shouldn’t be for anyone. And is NOT a social progress of any kind .
Don’t call it “depraved” westerners will get heart attack from “Republican” nightmares or we are “christofascists” because we didn’t accept the protagonist Michael’s daughter Tracey having several affairs to get a actor job but that’s how she says , this is los santos or precisely USA .
"In analyzing a society and deriving its laws of motion, Marxism proceeds by studying its economic base, then also its superstructure (politics and culture) both in their particularity and in their interaction. The class that controls the economic base and appropriates the surplus product is the determinant factor in the long run, producing its own framework of political rule and dominant cultural precepts.
As Marx aptly said in The German Ideology:
The ideas of the ruling class are in every epoch the ruling ideas, i.e. the class which is the ruling material force of society, is at the same time its ruling intellectual force. The class which has the means of material production at its disposal, has control at the same time over the means of mental production, so that thereby, generally speaking, the ideas of those who lack the means of mental production are subject to it. … Insofar, therefore, as they rule as a class and determine the extent and compass of an epoch, it is self-evident that they do this in its whole range, hence among other things rule also as thinkers, as producers of ideas, and regulate the production and distribution of the ideas of their age: thus their ideas are the ruling ideas of the epoch.
However, the superstructure can become crucial in intensifying contradictions within the economic base or in breaking deadlocks towards resolution and general advance. Thus to be a cultural activist, one must understand the underlying contradictions and define one´s class stand. On whose side are we? As cultural activists, we stand with and for the people. We expose and criticize oppression and obscurantism in any or many aspects of this vast mental, communication, and behavioral complex that we call culture, and espouse revolutionary changes in society in that same space.
In the past two or three decades now, the world’s countries and peoples have been facing a renewed cultural offensive by the foremost imperialist powers. This offensive advances in parallel with their economic and political-military offensives. This cultural offensive is led by US imperialism. It is the “soft power” aspect of the US ambition for full spectrum dominance in the economic, political, military, social and other spheres, including outer space."
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Excuse me, I have a question for the “Arbiter of subversive media” (You)
The book There, There by Tommy orange depicts sexism, addiction, violence, and poverty.
Is that not healthy for society?
thx.
I guess we’ll never know. But knowing their puritan stance, probably yes, wouldn’t be allowed to talk about ndn plight either- which is sad considering another theme in that book is erasure.
GTA games are usually sexist and are too violent, depraved. Having women or not these games are not healthy for society.
It mimics real life really well, then, I don’t see the problem.
I guess we normal people don’t go usually out and kill people for gangs and mobs.
Most normal people don’t fly airplanes either, but that’s not a requirement for Flight Simulator to mimic real life well too.
flight simulators and other war games (Early CODs not the modern warfare and such ) don’t promote negative values in society and sexism . Portraying women as mere sexual objects is not very healthy to teenagers . GTA 5 had all kinds of applying torture , sexual gratification , promoting banditry.
You’re sounding like a 90’s christian parent worried that video games are going to turn their kids violent.
Which reminded me, I should have mentioned this earlier, but you used the word “depraved” in the first post; I am not comfortable with you using that christofacist language.
lol. Well that’s maybe the cultural difference between a westerner and a person from South Asia. We two have different perspectives of depravity and right and wrong. btw I am not a Christian .
Well, you do sound like one. Condemning a piece of media for its “depravity” sounds like it came straight out of a Republican’s playbook. As for perspective, I mean, if it means “things with a sexual tone that I consider morally bad”, then it is a problem regardless of culture.
Edit: maybe I am being too exclusionary, all religious fundamentalism is bad, not just christian.
https://www.gamerbraves.com/china-has-banned-more-than-60-games-from-live-streaming/ Not really its either you are promoting the moral depravity in society or thinks anything that republicans say against video games is bad. And i don’t live in Republican , democrat dilemma .
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What are gamergater takes?
Games are the newest bugaboo in a long line of media 'boos. Movies, tv shows, books (really). Its extremely tiring to see this same pattern play out
https://www.gamerbraves.com/china-has-banned-more-than-60-games-from-live-streaming/ I don’t know about media boos but I approve of what china has done.
Yea why aren’t there more video games about following the speed limit in your 10 year old car then filling out spreadsheets for 8 hours.
Where the fuck did all these boomer ass takes come from.
Treat defender.
Ah yes the old classic “video games make people bad” argument from like way back in the 90s 😂
Social conservativism is actually much MUCH worse for society
Jack Thompson was right. The videogames made by the west encourage people to become antisocial freaks. All the treat defenders in the thread can cope and seethe all they want, people are shaped by the media they consume.
Okay and…? I don’t play Western games, JRPGs is my shit. I don’t even know why this is a big fucking deal it’s fucking videogames.
You have been living in a bubble world where you think GTA 5/6 is the way to achieve social progress. Yeah , portraying women as sexual objects , promoting drug abuse , gang violence is what we need in the society. No regular healthy society will accept it. Western societies and liberal left accept it because they have nothing else to offer in their corrupt society and you people are being brainwashed by those idiotic concept thinking a women protagonist in GTA 6 game is feminism . But whom I am to judge your corrupt capitalistic system has made those games and you are the product of the same society.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsZdwwDV42M Torturing a guy with electric shocks /clippers is not fun for me and it shouldn’t be for anyone. And is NOT a social progress of any kind .
https://www.reddit.com/r/truegaming/comments/1njfjm/gta_vs_torture_scene_and_the_games_industrys/
You’re 100% right and it’s downright disturbing that you’re downvoted. Depraved
Don’t call it “depraved” westerners will get heart attack from “Republican” nightmares or we are “christofascists” because we didn’t accept the protagonist Michael’s daughter Tracey having several affairs to get a actor job but that’s how she says , this is los santos or precisely USA .
Imperialist Cultural Offensive:
"In analyzing a society and deriving its laws of motion, Marxism proceeds by studying its economic base, then also its superstructure (politics and culture) both in their particularity and in their interaction. The class that controls the economic base and appropriates the surplus product is the determinant factor in the long run, producing its own framework of political rule and dominant cultural precepts.
As Marx aptly said in The German Ideology:
The ideas of the ruling class are in every epoch the ruling ideas, i.e. the class which is the ruling material force of society, is at the same time its ruling intellectual force. The class which has the means of material production at its disposal, has control at the same time over the means of mental production, so that thereby, generally speaking, the ideas of those who lack the means of mental production are subject to it. … Insofar, therefore, as they rule as a class and determine the extent and compass of an epoch, it is self-evident that they do this in its whole range, hence among other things rule also as thinkers, as producers of ideas, and regulate the production and distribution of the ideas of their age: thus their ideas are the ruling ideas of the epoch.
However, the superstructure can become crucial in intensifying contradictions within the economic base or in breaking deadlocks towards resolution and general advance. Thus to be a cultural activist, one must understand the underlying contradictions and define one´s class stand. On whose side are we? As cultural activists, we stand with and for the people. We expose and criticize oppression and obscurantism in any or many aspects of this vast mental, communication, and behavioral complex that we call culture, and espouse revolutionary changes in society in that same space.
In the past two or three decades now, the world’s countries and peoples have been facing a renewed cultural offensive by the foremost imperialist powers. This offensive advances in parallel with their economic and political-military offensives. This cultural offensive is led by US imperialism. It is the “soft power” aspect of the US ambition for full spectrum dominance in the economic, political, military, social and other spheres, including outer space."
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Man what are you even fucking talking about, all that cause I said you made a dumb argument that was debunked like 30 years ago. Go off though 👍🏿
The liberal argument may have been debunked but the Marxist critique hasn’t.
Excuse me, I have a question for the “Arbiter of subversive media” (
You)The book There, There by Tommy orange depicts sexism, addiction, violence, and poverty.
Is that not healthy for society?
thx.
I guess we’ll never know. But knowing their puritan stance, probably yes, wouldn’t be allowed to talk about ndn plight either- which is sad considering another theme in that book is erasure.