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  • 0xtero@beehaw.orgtoPrivacy@lemmy.mlIs it impossible to be private online?
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    6 months ago

    Every time I talk about privacy online, the pessimists always come out. "It’s impossible to have any online privacy.

    My experience is actually completely opposite. While mainstream “normies” don’t seem to care, most of them are using readily available privacy tools in their communication daily. Things like WhatsApp, Signal and iMessage. Most websites these days are HTTPS enabled. Governments are so concerned about this loss of monitoring capability, they’re trying to craft laws which allow them to backdoor devices before encryption happens. And they’re meeting resistance, despite all the lobbying (see Chat Control2.0). We’ve never had as widely adopted privacy tools as we have today.

    Big tech and advertising are two problems that still create trouble. A lot of this stems from completely different, non-privacy related reasons (the lax US policies concerning anti-consumer and monopoly laws) but even here policies around the world are slowly catching up. GDPR gives Europeans quite a bit of control over our data and while this is still just one baby step - it’s much better than it used to be. There’s a lot of global inequality here though. Facebook/Meta is synonymous to Internet in the developing world, because they’ve used their monopoly money to exploit the situation. Digital imperialism is still strong.

    I’m not going to harp too much on SMTP privacy, Proton has a bunch of nice services. If that’s where your MX happens to point at is, then great, but we do also need to slowly move away from these old protocols that offer no privacy choice (yeah I know, SMTP is here to stay).

    What I’d like to see more, is talk about threat modeling in this space. Because that’s where it all starts and threat models are quite personal. There’s no “one size fits all” privacy, because our needs vary. Political dissident living in exile from hostile government has completely different needs for privacy compared to a person who doesn’t like YouTube ads. We should try to foster easily digestible discussion around personal threat modeling - right now we (the privacy crowd) come across as loonies since lot of the advice we give starts from the wrong end of the model.

    I don’t see digital privacy as a pessimistic space. But what do I know, I’m not a content creator.


  • What else am I missing?

    Large scale manufacturers pre-installing Linux? Readily available multi-language support for home users? Coherent UI regardless of computer and distro underneath. Billions on lobbying money spent on politicians for favorable policy crafting? Billions spent on marketing campaigns to actually sell the idea to the masses who simply don’t care any of your points (or any technical reasons, privacy or anything else that might be top of mind of the current Linux userbase).

    I’d say Linux has a good chance of capturing 5-6% of the market in the coming years if lucky (I believe we’re somewhere around 4% at the moment), unless one of the big tech monopolies decides to start throwing money into it (Like Google did with Android)