So according to this article, if there was a high-protein, low-carb food with taurine, it would be nutritionally satisfactory? Taurine is already lab-made and added to most pet foods, including animal-based ones. Protein is easy to separate from carbs in plant-based foods. Pea protein, for example, has a 15:1 protein to carb ratio.

I still don’t see a case for malnutrition. Every article that claims cats can’t be plant based repeat the same “taurine” and “protein” concerns, but again, those are so easily debunked. What magic ingredient of meat is necessary for cats that can’t be found in plants, causing them to die a slow, tortuous life of malnutrition?

Source?

The dairy industry and the meat industry are two sides of the same coin.

I agree. The threshold for becoming the “dominant species” of a planet is so low that the species still has its primal wiring for tribalism, competitiveness, etc. by the time it can build rockets. We humans should’ve had more time in the evolutionary oven to become more empathetic and cooperative for longer-term survival. Instead we have people willing (and able) to literally burn the world down to become richer or more powerful. And we have most of society cheering them on.

We’ve been on the verge of destroying ourselves for decades now, and humans have just barely started doing space stuff (a blink compared to the life of the universe). How in the world can anyone expect us to get to Dyson sphere levels of progress with how fragile our existence is?

I think this is where the disconnect is. It’s not just milking an animal. It’s getting her pregnant, taking her child away from her shortly after birth and killing it. It’s keeping her trapped in a tiny pen for her whole life, barely able to move. Then, when she can no longer produce milk, kill her, 6 years into her 20-year lifespan.

Dairy is cruel. Arguably more cruel than meat.

Sure, but that’s like saying “I don’t shoot dogs, I just kick them.” Like, sure, I guess that’s better, but when you say you do it because you “care about dogs,” that doesn’t make sense.

I agree. The one caveat being that there are thousands of animals in shelters who are going to live in cages for years until they’re killed. If the alternative is someone can adopt them and give them a happy life in a loving home, that’s the obviously better option.

Breeders can go fuck right off, though. Every cat or dog bred into existence condemns an animal in a shelter to die.

What? You’re saying that because we needed leather in the past, we can’t wear cotton now to keep warm? At one point we didn’t have easy access to plant-based proteins so we should continue eating animal products? By that logic, we didn’t have vaccines in the past, so does that mean we can’t use them now? Our ancestors also didn’t have the internet, so why are you here?

The past was a completely different world. Don’t let it hold you back from doing better now.

No, plants are.

Wouldn’t it be easy to lie though? Instance B could report 1000 upvotes to Instance C and Instance C would have no way of verifying that. An instance could boost its own numbers pretty easily, pushing agendas to the front page.

The transparency allows for accountability. It would be pretty easy to detect an instance making up user upvotes versus a “just trust this number” system.

It’s not that they’re the enemy - it’s just that the platform is controlled by its users. If an admin goes bad, users have the ability to change instances or stand up instances of their own. We are not tied to a single entity’s will.

Oh I’m way too lazy to crush my own tomatoes. Tinned is good.

My go-to meal is Cajun pasta:

Boil whatever pasta you like (I use farfalle/bowtie). While that’s going, slice and pan fry some onion and bell pepper plus a sausage meat substitute (if you want, optional). When the pasta’s done and drained, add some crushed tomato, a few dollops of vegan cream cheese (I use Kite Hill), and a large amount of Cajun Spice Mix and mix to get a creamy red sauce. Then just throw everything together.

Pretty easy to cook. Sorry I can’t list the proportions because it’s all by feel. Really though, it’s hard to go wrong (I suppose you could over season with the spice mix, but that has yet to happen to me).

I have the same issue. Makes the front page unusable with the flood of posts pushing everything down. Firefox / Win 11