I find the quality and variety of discussions on the fediverse to be lower than what I had on reddit. Lemmings have strong preconceived notions and little interest in changing viewpoints from new information. I think I’ll be switching back.

Edit: you’ll find that most of the comments deny any shortcomings of the culture and go directly to invalidating my opinions via character assassination. If lemmy was a community that actually stood for the ideals which it espouses it would take constructive criticism in the spirit in which it was intended. QED.

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    Density of toxic rhetoric is through the roof on lemmy. It rivals what you’d find on bad private forums of yore.

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      Please provide me examples, because as far as I’m concerned, I’m just not seeing the same level of toxicity you are apparently.

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        Uh, I see the stuff with the politics stuff but… how is their opinion without explanation of Star Trek toxic?

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          They’re not Trek

          They’re not the arbiter of Trek. They have no input on what is and is not real Trek. They can like it and not like it all they want, thats opinion. But it’s pretty toxic and shitty to try and claim that because it doesn’t fit with your personal views that it isn’t real Star Trek.

          It is indeed toxic but frankly it’s more pathetic piss baby behavior than anything else.

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            It’s a rhetorical expression that says that the subject goes against the spirit of the franchise. There’s no claim of authority in there, and I don’t see why you think so.

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        If it ain’t Tomino it ain’t Gundam.

        If it ain’t Lucas it ain’t Star Wars.

        If it ain’t Roddenberry it ain’t Trek.

        Importantly if you think Kurtzman is making Trek then you misunderstand the series. Star Trek is about a future where humanity lifts itself fully out of its worst aspects. It shows us what we should aspire to be. Kurtzman just wants to make Starship Troppers without the satire.

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            Is it gatekeeping to say fan fiction is not canon? Kurtzman’s Trek is bad fanfiction with legal cover. I could write some nonsense and slap Star Trek on it and I wouldn’t be able to force you to consider it Star Trek. If I had a billion dollars and bought the rights to the name would that change your mind?

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              It’s not fan fiction, it’s canon. Just because you’re butthurt and a crotchety pissed off racist old man doesn’t mean that it isn’t real Trek lmfao

              Like I said here, you’re a nobody. You don’t have any say on what is and isn’t Trek lol you’re just a little boy crying online because they did a thing you didn’t like

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                Why are you so upset? I’m not old or racist. You did look through my comments and cherry picked examples to try to smear me. I’m very liberal, but admitting that would be a big backpedal. You disagree with my opinions, so I must be evil. It’s a bad sign with someone of your disposition is in a position of authority. If you wear the uniform you should strive to be worthy of it.

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                  Dude I already cut out the part where I called you a Trump supporter so, no. Not a big backpedal. But you just did one, huh? Can’t actually defend your position on Star Trek so of course you jump ship and then try to pretend that being mod of two small communities is a “position of authority”. Bro if I wanted to abuse that position, you’d have been banned already on TenForward and a long time ago when I first saw those comments. Unfortunately for you, you are once again completely wrong. Shocker.

                  Keep whining dude. You are a crotchety and racist old man. You are upset with newer Trek because it is displaying values that you do not agree with and you cannot cope with this. You are more accepting of a show made by a man who openly turned a main character into a woman who was raped to death because you cannot process the idea of true representation in Star Trek. You’re evil because you’re a shitty person. Not because I disagree with you.

                  Have fun with your little tidal pool of misery because I’m done playing with a kiddie like you who can’t provide value to anything he claims or does lol

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      What subs are you in? I can think of a few that are terrible, so I blocked them, and many more where I don’t think I have ever seen more than critical opinion.