• Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    I love it. Make Trump and the GOP look like the obstructionists that they are.

    Both red and blue governors want some sort of way to handle the record number of people crossing right now. That bipartisan bill would’ve easily passed if it was brought to the floor. But if the border started to chill out, Trump wouldn’t be able to complain about the border at the podium.

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      8 months ago

      “gonna own the people I keep calling a threat to democracy by doing exactly what they want and then telling them they’re stupid for not voting for it”

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        Biden HAS TO listen to the American people. And the American people are demanding that he do something. If he doesn’t, they will put in someone who does.

        Sure the GOP has forced the issue into people’s heads. But Biden HAS TO face that reality.

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            He’s fucked up with Gaza. It’s the one thing I think he has absolutely failed on. But I don’t think the politics are that straightforward with it. Demanding a total ceasefire probably isn’t good politics. And they wouldn’t stop anyways.

            Demanding a stoppage to the genocide is definitely good politics. But Biden has been a behind the scenes president which works better for influencing Republicans who will dig their heels in if called out. But it has failed here and he needs to acknowledge that. They haven’t listened to anything from him since the hostage release.

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              A total ceasefire is the only way to stop the genocide. Surely you realize this?

              Also, we can’t possibly know what’s happening behind the scenes. What his administration is saying is happening behind the scenes could very well be a total lie. Until I hear him publicly demand a ceasefire I’m going to assume that he supports the genocide.

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              Surely you can see how this comment is a severe contradiction to your original assertion, yes?

              Biden HAS TO listen to the American people.

              Does he ‘HAVE TO’ or not?

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          Wait, so now the GOP is reflecting reality that Biden has to face? Getting really confused over here and starting to feel like I don’t live in a democracy.

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            Did you just discover narratives? I can’t really telling because you said “GOP is reflecting” which isn’t really true and not what I said. But maybe that’s what you meant?

            Biden has to respond to the narrative. The narrative is there because of the GOP. They’re setting it.

            Democrats do the same. But they’re usually not as good at it since they are expected to be truthful.

            (eg GOP lies about immigrants being evil. DNC gives warnings about abortion that come true.)

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                They don’t do what the GOP wants. But they do have to respond to the narrative in some way. Otherwise the people will elect the GOP who will make things MUCH, MUCH worse.

                Same way that the GOP is now freaking out about IVF. Suddenly their anti-choice policies look so much worse. And if they don’t do something, more Democrats will be elected and we will enact more pro-choice legislation.

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          Democrats gave Republicans everything they wanted on the border in exchange for funding Ukraine

          And then orange man said no, so the Republicans said “well now I am not doing it”

          And so here we are, with both sidesists screaming that Biden has to do something about the “border crisis” when the Republicans have shot down their own bills

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            Both sides of voters were already screaming at Biden.

            If you think Republicans got everything they wanted, you’re really not paying attention to what they want.

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      “record number”

      Propaganda works, I see. Every election year.

      There is no border crisis and never has been.

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        Search for the public records around “US southern border encounters.” All of this stuff has been logged and quantified for decades. We’re up around 2.4m annual encounters. Previous large peaks hit 1.6m annually. During the Obama years it was floating around 0.4m annually.

        Pew has a good breakdown, but it hasn’t been updated for 2023. It ends at 2021, and things have only gone up since then.

        https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2021/11/09/whats-happening-at-the-u-s-mexico-border-in-7-charts/

        Many towns / states that support sanctuary are hitting budget ceilings for helping refugees and asylum-seekers. Racists and xenophobes have been crying wolf for decades, and unfortunately, that has made many people dismiss any “border crisis” claims they hear, even when the data supports the claim.

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          Chart really makes it looks like this happens every 10-20 years, and I doubt anything was changed those times it happened. The huge spike this time is because we had a global pandemic that started in 2020 and kept everything low

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            A lot of natural disasters drove people out of their own countries too. And they’re only becoming more frequent.

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          To bad that Americans are lazy worthless shits who wont fucking work. Let them in already; our fields need tending; our homes beed cleaning; and I need a taco truck on my street corner.

          There is no border crisis, and never has been.