Collins followed up with another tweet calling for the local county prosecutor to “immediately file charges against Joseph R. Biden for inciting an assassination.”

Someone didn’t get the memo from SCOTUS.

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    The Republican District Attorney in Butler County, PA, should immediately file charges against Joseph R. Biden for inciting an assassination.

    Why? Supreme court very explicitly said that it would be legal.

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      Ok let them bring the charges against him and let’s have the supreme clown court explicitly say it’s not an official act. Let’s get that on record now.

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        Like the six stooges on the court wouldn’t find it unofficial for Biden and then two months later say the exact same thing is legal when a Republican does it.

        The record means nothing to these fascists.

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        SCOTUS says that charges can’t even be brought unless there is a legal procedure where it’s proved to be not “an official act,” and DoJ has the burden of proof on that.

        Let’s say we’re living in Crazytown (a stretch, I know), and Biden did order this assassination attempt. The legal process for actually charging Biden with anything would be so long as to deny justice, and that doesn’t even count the additional time it would take to try the case and come to a verdict.

        Let’s say we’re living in an alternate universe Crazytown, where Trump actually died, too. That years-long legal process would still be in effect, and “Biden with a Goatee” would enjoy the political benefits of the assassination the entire time, even if he was ultimately charged and found guilty and sentenced to prison several years later.

        This is why the SCOTUS ruling on criminal immunity for Presidents is America’s Enabling Act.

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            That reminds me of that Lewis Black joke where they dig up a dead justice to swear in a dead candidate and it’s just 2 hours of silence on live national television. He joked that if we did that, no terrorist would ever fuck with the US again because they’d be so creeped out.

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      The exact type of scenario was posed to the Court and SCOTUS bought it.

      We tried warning you all.

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      Clearly he wasn’t acting officially as president when he used the EPA to poison this young man’s mind with freedom (pfas) free water. He was acting as the authoritarian head of ANTIFA

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    Biden would not have sent a 20 year old Republican to do it, lol…

    These people lack the most fundamental critical thinking skills…

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      There’s a reason conspiracy theories run rampant on the right. These people are so gullible, and a big part of it has to do with the fact that they are far less educated on average. As a result they tend to just follow news they want to believe in as opposed to challenging their own biases.

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      It’s a defining feature of conservatism

      Does Lower Cognitive Ability Predict Greater Prejudice?

      [T]here exists a solid empirical paper trail demonstrating that lower cognitive abilities (e.g., abstract-reasoning skills and verbal, nonverbal, and general intelligence) predict greater prejudice. We discuss how the effects of lower cognitive ability on prejudice are explained (i.e., mediated) by greater endorsement of right-wing socially conservative attitude. […]

      Right-wing ideologies offer well-structured and ordered views about society that preserve traditional societal conventions and norms (e.g., Jost, Glaser, Kruglanski, & Sulloway, 2003). Such ideological belief systems are particularly attractive to individuals who are strongly motivated to avoid uncertainty and ambiguity in preference for simplicity and predictability (Jost et al., 2003; Roets & Van Hiel, 2011). Theoretically, individuals with lower mental abilities should be attracted by right-wing social-cultural ideologies because they minimize complexity and increase perceived control (Heaven, Ciarrochi, & Leeson, 2011; Stankov, 2009). Conversely, individuals with greater cognitive skills are better positioned to understand changing and dynamic societal contexts, which should facilitate open-minded, relatively left-leaning attitudes (Deary et al., 2008a; Heaven et al., 2011; McCourt, Bouchard, Lykken, Tellegen, & Keyes, 1999). Lower cognitive abilities therefore draw people to strategies and ideologies that emphasize what is presently known and considered acceptable to make sense and impose order over their environment. Resistance to social change and the preservation of the status quo regarding societal traditions—key principles underpinning right-wing social-cultural ideologies—should be particularly appealing to those wishing to avoid uncertainty and threat.

      Indeed, the empirical literature reveals negative relations between cognitive abilities and right-wing social-cultural attitudes, including right-wing authoritarian (e.g., Keiller, 2010; McCourt et al., 1999), socially conservative (e.g., Stankov, 2009; Van Hiel et al., 2010), and religious attitudes (e.g., Zuckerman, Silberman, & Hall, 2013).

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      I mean, the whole thing is ludicrous, but that’s exactly who they’d send.

      But anyway, they know exactly what they are doing - don’t be so naive.

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        I’d imagine Biden has access to lots of government officials who would have the capacity to get much closer to trump then 100m without having to go through security. Also once again the republicans accuse Biden of something most of us know he doesn’t have the balls for. If Biden was half the things the republicans accuse him of being he’d probably be my favorite politician ever.

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        Either way, if Biden ordered it, it’s fine unless congress removes him from office as long as the SCOTUS decides it’s an official act.

        FTFY, they left the door open to future interpretations in their ruling.

        Still a crazy, dangerous ruling.

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      An actual trained sharpshooter/sniper/assassin wouldn’t go for a head shot, they would shoot for center of mass.

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    Democrats need a crazy congressman to come out and say this was a fake assassination attempt.

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      “Donald was allowed to have his center mass and head exposed by trained secret service agents in the most staged looking photo I’ve seen. He has a history in pro wrestling, hell Linda McMahon worked with him in his cabinet for years, so blood packs are no mystery, and are you going to tell me that a rooftop a mere 400 feet away from him was unmonitored? This is all faker than his tan.”

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      Or… And hear me out… Let’s not encourage more crazy. There is already enough out there.

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      While there are stupid people on the left, they don’t usually get into office the way they do on the right.

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      “Sir, when you hear the first shot, reach up and pop the blood pack on your ear, then drop.”

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          He was stabbed by a knife (no serious damage) while being carried by his supporters. It was claimed to be political, but afterwards there were accusations that it was staged.

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    And so fucking what. What are they gonna do. Are they gonna outlaw the exact thing that SCOTUS decided because it suddenly occurred to them that a sword cuts both ways? No. They just going to make a lot of fucking noise to rile up their own base. We all know where this is going and it’s nowhere good. And the worst part - the worst part? America was able to bail Europe out of the debacle when it happened last time. There’s nobody to bail us out of this cluster fuck.

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      Ummmm you might care to remember that the USSR also “bailed out” Europe.

      You know…in the sense that you were dragged into a war you had no intention of joining, by a foe that had already gone 11 rounds with the UK and Russia.

      The UK spent an entire empire “bailing out” europe. Twice. But we don’t hark on about it.

      But you’re right about one thing - no one is coming to bail you out. You’ve made it abundantly clear you will only act unilaterally. Europe will stay in its lane, quietly hope that Trump has a stroke, but ready to stand on its own for a 3rd time.

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    They will blame anyone but themselves. They are the ones that have made it so every idiot can own a gun. This is KARMA.

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      Wouldn’t that eventually come back to SCOTUS, though, and have “official” determined by: Republican ✅ Democrat ❌

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    If it was Biden, he’d send the Navy Seals. Navy Seals wouldn’t have missed.

    Also, SCOTUS says that’s 100% legal.

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    To biden: Just do it. They were always going to accuse you. They’ll charge you when you lose. Just actually do it.

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    202-225-4101

    Mailbox is currently full, but I’d say give this guy’s office a call tomorrow.

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      They ruled in a way that didn’t really define what an official act was, so if I’m not mistaken, any act could still be up to SCOTUS to ultimately determine if charges were brought and prosecuted.

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        This so what I was trying to argue elsewhere: people keep saying it made the POTUS a king, but if I were POTUS and wanted to do something questionable, I know who I would be running it by first.

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      Or at least it would have to be shown to not be an official act. And since taking classified documents home with you and showing them around to people after your presidential term is over may or may not be an official act, all bets seem to be off.