If the performance weakness continues for a week or two, the agency would start recommending decreasing spend with Reddit or directing it to other platforms.
After the blackout, we will be closely monitoring user behavior on Reddit and guide clients when we can unpause,” said Freddy Dabaghi, managing director at Stagwell-backed Crispin Porter Bogusky, which has asked clients to stop campaigns, depending on their client goals.
Hey! I’m keeping this as it’s sharing knowledge with new users from Reddit. However, in future please find another community to post this on, because it is not related to the lemmy.world instance specifically.
Honestly, regardless of what happens, I have no plans to go back. Lemmy’s been a refreshing breath of fresh air.
Same. It’s really struck me both how little I miss it and how much I like the communities here. There’s a much friendlier vibe.
And for the most part, aside from the bullshit threads where it’s encouraged and expected, the comments are a lot more ‘high-effort,’ which is nice. That’s something that I would expect to tend to naturally go down with the lowest common denominator as user count increases, but we’ll see.
Yeah, I think the kind of people to drop reddit over this are going to be more my kind of people, if that makes sense.
Conversation seems deeper, less dominated by repeated jokes.
This is a really good point, and one of the reasons I’m happy to make my new online home here.
The type of people who act like this is nothing, or worse, act like there’s nothing that can be done and we should just roll over, won’t have gone through the trouble to come here. And yeah, I’m with you, they can all hang out and circlejerk the same jokes over and over along with the bots.
Best of both worlds, and we’re all happy. A bit of positive selection bias.
also you don’t have a karma system homogenizing behavior by making redditors constantly addicted to upcummies
Doesn’t lemmy have w “points” thing?
At least the web UI doesn’t show me my net score if there’s one. And no one seems to care about karma or having a minimum karma to post like on Reddit. It was frustrating making a new account just to post on certain subs and having my stuff removed preemptively. I just hope to never experience that ever again.
Even on reddit i didn’t care about karma, just posted and commented when i felt like it and where i felt like it.
It really is, there isn’t as much content as reddit and that may or may not change but the lack of people acting like they are better than everyone makes it well worth it. I deleted the app and won’t go back
yup, let those folk stay on Reddit.
I wanted to leave for such a long time, but the alternatives weren’t active enough.
If enough people stick around, yeah, I’m never going back.
I’m really hoping the federated nature will make advertising harder. That’s what really started making Reddit suck.
I also like it more and more, especially since more communities are popping up and they get more populated.
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Until all the communities I love move here I think I’d be hopping back and forth from Sync for Reddit and Jeroba for Lemmy, until that happens or Sync breaks lol.
What do you mean by Lemmy for Reddit?
A typo lol, I edited my comment, I meant Jerboa for Lemmy.
Ah ok, I thought I was about to learn something new again ^^
If I were world dictator I would just make advertising illegal. It’s the perfect dictator move. Simple policy that’s hard to enforce which will almost certainly have unintended consequences. But God damn do I hate advertising.
It is such a bizarre and creepy industry, everything about it is gross. I support you for world dictator!
The problem is that it is basically impossible to clearly differentiate from reviews which are a good and necessary thing. Pay someone to review your product and what now?
don’t complain if all the free service become paid…
I honestly think I’d prefer that they just let me pay them outright rather than trying to use me as bait for advertisers. The expectation that everything should be free leads to what we see today
meh, good point but i’d prefer some reasonably placed ad (not like those website that have 99% ad and 1% content) instead of paying for something that maybe i’ll never use again
Yea I wouldn’t mind If some of these instances had like one stickied post at the top for a paid ad If that was enough to pay for most of these server costs
sadly adverts are what allows some things to be free to consumers, it’s the funding that supports the content that people consume. It’s what it is for now, in the future maybe there would be better merit systems funded by tax or something if humans get together and stop being greedy.
Your wish has been granted, all small businesses have gone bankrupt because nobody knows they exist and since the only form of advertising left is undercover guerilla advertising campaigns every post on every platform is secretly an advertisement!
Ahh! Oh no! Who could have ever foreseen these consequences??
I think people should be allowed to promote products and services, but those promotions should not be given any more weight than any other kind of post. The problem is when advertisers are allowed to buy spots on a site.
Wouldn’t that just turn into who can afford the most vote manipulation on their reddit posts?
Isn’t that how it works now anyway, in addition to regular ads?
You’re not wrong!
Around 14 years ago or so, I actually turned off my Adblocker for reddit, because I respected the platform and how it was run. I’ve never turned off Adblocker for ANY other site before or since. Reddit can get fucked. I’m not going back period.
I did the same at some point. However, that place is long gone. There is no reason to be stuck there.
I think that’s admirable. Personally I’d rather just pay $1 per month or something and not see ads at all and have app access.
Sites need to understand that. No one wants to pay 10$/month for some premium crap, all we want is to replace ad revenue.
But sadly most of them charge ridiculous amounts, so it’s infeasible to support many of them. People end up choosing the big ones because they provide the most value per money, so we get more monopolization.
The point is that it is not one dollar, actual server costs may still grow, so subscrptions for social media are still not enough to support the infrastructure behind. Look at twitter, the subscription is there (they call it $8chan now lol) but it still costs a lot of money. The question is whether giant social media sties can be as profitable as other non-tech companies, and it’s a valid question.
I cancelled my Reddit premium today. I was hesitant because I was in the $30/yr and didn’t want to get rid of that pricing since it’s $50 now. But I’m liking the fediverse and the quirks that comes with it. Will cancelling make an impact? Probably not. But I’d rather not support them if they’re not going to give me a choice on which app I use.
Earnest question, what did the $30/year get you? I never gave them a penny out of my own pocket, didn’t know why I would.
It gave you 700 tokens a month. So you could give out awards to posts. It also removed ads. But I used Apollo and old.reddit(don’t know if ads are placed here) so it didn’t exactly benefit me much.
I also cancelled my Reddit premium. I was using Apollo so the no ad thing was not a factor and I never used my tokens. But I used reddit a lot over many years and wanted to contribute. Currently I am avoiding reddit and trying out Lemmy. Will decide before Jun 30 whether to delete posts/comments/account. I have also resrrected an RSS app which I had not been using for quite a while.
I never had premium. But I deleted my 8-year account today. I took a screenshot as I was using power delete suite. I was tempted to make a throwaway account and post it to some of their subreddits that are still trending and see if I could start some kind of stupid little movement. Maybe they think a little bit longer if they start seeing people delete long-term accounts. And I’m sure there are lots of accounts out there that are much longer term and much higher Karma than me. Actually sacrificing some of those accounts could actually make a difference.
Canceled my premium as well. I’m enjoying Lemmy so far and have no plans to go back to Reddit
I personally hope they go bankrupt. I mean I feel bad for the average worker just trying to make a living, but fuck Reddit. Those folks should jump ship while they can and do something better for themselves.
I really like the idea that position if big social networks is not secure, that will make all of them think before making bad decisions.
Facebook is almost dead, at least around me (Meta is not with IG and Wapp), I am now starting to hope that reddit would not recover.
They have been digging this grave for some time now. We should let them go.
Reddit just a layoff this week. Nobody’s job their is safe. Best the rest get out while they can.
Two Wpromote clients canceled two premium, takeover-style campaigns that were supposed to launch this week
“Takeover” campaigns are getting canceled. I wonder which blacked out subs were going to be taken over with ads this week.
Wait, the advertisers have campaigns to take over subreddits? What?!
Apparently “premium, takeover-style” campaigns are a thing that reddit sells to its advertisers. TIL The article says that the campaigns will relaunch next week after the delay.
Blood… reaching… boiling point…
What do you think the unblockable “He Gets Us” bullshit is?
Oh hell fucking no, if they start doing that reddit is for sure dead
They have been doing this since March 2020.
Source: https://www.redditinc.com/blog/introducing-reddits-new-offering-for-advertisers-trending-takeover/
I’m aware, With this new article it seems they are going to become much more aggressive with ads and I expect them to get rid of old.reddit in the future to force even more ads on people with this change.
Not literally take over a subreddit, takeover advertising campaigns are typically a high-key screen space domination type of advertising. Think of something like a video games news site where the homepage is completely covered in advertising for a new, high budget game. Ads at the top, ads at the bottom, ads in the normally-empty margins, and often a focus on articles about the subject.
How that reflects to Reddit I’d never know, it’s likely something that’s exclusive to the newer layout that I have no interest in using.
This type of advertising is the death-knell of any site, because at that point you’re interacting with an advert with some extra elements rather than a site with ads.
And that’s why they will get rid of old.reddit. If they are cutting third party apps to increase ad revenue, then they will do the same with old.reddit
A new blackout tracker just dropped on the Discord: https://darktotal.com/
I’ve also been liking https://blackout.photon-reddit.com/
That’s very useful. I scrolled through the out of blackout list and was disappointed to find quite a few of my most-visited subreddits were public again
It almost makes me more upset that the subreddits are going public and makes me resist going back even more. It’s obviously having some sort of impact from that article about advertisers. Like, do mods really need to have their subreddit public that much? Go touch some god damn grass It’s irritating
Oh that’s a great one as well! The graph bottom right tracking individual subs over time is super helpful
I love how this contrasts with the CEO statement that many subreddits would go back to normal after the 2 days
Confused looking at r/gtafk jumping every hour from public to restricted to private to public to…
Mod fight, probably.
Thank you for sharing!
ps, which discord is this?
At this point, even if they were to reverse all the decisions they’ve made, I have no intention or desire to go back to Reddit. Lemmy has been a great replacement and I’m hoping it’ll only improve over time.
100% agree. I do miss apollo, but I’m sure in time we’ll have some great apps for lemmy as well
I mean. We’re all here. No idea how many people will actually stay, but I hope It’s enough. I like the change
I can only talk for myself. Since yesterday I lurk on Reddit but don’t really engage with it anymore other than that.
As soon as Apollo is gone, even that will go away. I don’t know if I will stay on Lemmy, only time will tell even tho I hope so. But my active days on Reddit are ending right now.
I wouldn’t say we’re all here. The statistics really don’t show that unfortunately
I definetly didn’t write clearly, sry :p
I meant that everyone on this thread is already on board. I just hope people actually stay in Lemmy
Reddit’s soul was slowly drained off life. It’s better here than going back to Zombieland. That’s said, I will grab some popcorn and watch this slow train wreck called future of Reddit.
Speaking of popcorn, I’m literally going to go make some right now!
yall are going around on the internet without ad blocker in current year?
I’ve used an adblock for more than a decade now. At work, due to security reasons, the way we connect to internet is quite restricted and I don’t have an adblock. Internet experience is terrible with that, like unusable. Most websites you barely can find what you are looking for, and the annoyance is constant. It’s like a nightmare every time I have to use it that way.
yk you could “side-load” install the adblocker extension manually from flash drive ;)
EDIT: /s? I am aware there are jobs that require very high security, this was just a cheeky don’t-really-do-this remark.
only if I want to risk losing my job and potential criminal charges (not joking)
If they aren’t allowed to install AdBlockers, I doubt they are allowed to plug in random flash drives into their work machines
One possible solution: if OP is allowed to connect their phone to their work computer, and they have a rooted Android phone, they could get around this using VPN tethering. I’ll spell out how to do this, in case someone else can benefit from it.
What’s needed:
- a rooted Android phone
- a VPN based ad blocker (Blokada, AdAway, etc)
- a USB cable
- a VPN hotspot app
Steps:
- Connect your phone to a VPN based ad blocker
- Connect your phone to your computer
- Open the VPN hotspot app. Turn on USB tethering, then rndis0
If it doesn’t work, try turning on USB debugging on your phone, or changing default USB configuration under Developer options
Right? It’s like sleeping with strangers without a condom on. Even the FBI recommends an adblocker now.
Also using my VPN’s DNS to block adware on phone and desktop as well as Pi-hole at home for guests who don’t use a VPN
It’s hard to stay dark when the admins can put admin-friendly mods in charge of subs.
They can try but without the moderation tools at the core of the issue, the subs will be inundated with bot spam till it dies. There will never be enough admins with free time to replace all the unpaid moderators let alone their knowledge. Not to mention doing a hostile takeover of subs without any understanding of each community’s values will serve only to piss off more people.
Besides cashing out a dying platform, there is no winning for Reddit if they keep this up.
That’s fine let reddit shittify itself further. Whoever they replaced them with is gonna do reddit bidding that is unless they turn on reddit, regardless its not going to return reddit to its former self.
The next problem are the users that refuse to move away from Reddit. I’ve seen comments on subreddits that re-opened that say its not a big deal to them because they use the app. I guess people love getting fucked in the ass by these corporations
They are going to use AI surely?
I would love to be a fly on the wall come July. If the advertisers start to pull their spots, the earth may rumble just a tad
Don’t forget that in the end of the month and July 1st the third party apps will disappear on reddit. That means more redditors will to like lemmy or squablles etc.
Yeah, this is what I’m most interested to see. Right now it’s a forward thinking, principled thing.
Once Relay, RiF, Apollo, BaconReader, and all the others go defunct, a lot more people are going to take notice. If they use the awful official app, they’re going to realize Reddit has changed dramatically and not for the better, and they’ve just been shielded from the worst if it with their 3rd party apps.
old reddit com also will stop working somewhere around this date, and this will put more people away
Do you have a source on this? 5 days ago the message was “P.S. old.reddit.com isn’t going anywhere”.
A few months ago, the message was also “Reddit is not going to start charging for API access.”
I’m not saying old.reddit.com is going away in the very near future, but I also wouldn’t put too much trust into whatever spez says on any given day.
I don’t disagree, but there’s a big difference between “it might stop working sometime in the future, there’s no way to know for sure” and “it will stop working somewhere around the date the API changes are made”.
The first is a good guess, the second is just flat out wrong. Look, I don’t like the reddit admins any more than the next guy, but there’s no need to resort to straight up lying.
i indeed have no source for that, so i deleted this
